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Nepotism in Sports, Legacy vs Young Talents, and Global Political Impacts: Unpacking Bronny James' Draft, Soccer Forecasts, and Globalism vs Nationalism Debate

Amadu Jalloh & Andrew Pender

Is nepotism poisoning the sports industry? This week on Fan Faces +, we welcome back our longtime friend and insightful commentator, Rado React, also known as Iassen Iverson. Together, we scrutinize the controversial case of Bronny James being drafted by the Los Angeles Lakers and compare his stats to other promising players like AJ Johnson. Our conversation doesn't stop at players; we explore the nepotistic ties within coaching staff, general managers, and even team owners, highlighting examples from the NFL's Buffalo Bills and their connections to the Carolina Panthers. 

Next, we tackle the contentious issue of veteran versus young talent in sports, exemplified by Alex Morgan’s exclusion from the US Olympic soccer team. We assess her unparalleled contributions to women's soccer, including her iconic performance in the 2012 Olympics, and debate whether ageism or the need for fresh talent led to this decision. Our discussion broadens to other sports, such as the WNBA, where seasoned players like Diana Taurasi continue to hold significant roles. Balancing legacy with innovation, we emphasize the importance of evolving team dynamics to maintain competitive edge on the international stage, spotlighting the recent triumphs of teams from Spain and England.

Finally, we offer our predictions for upcoming international soccer tournaments, delving into Team USA's prospects under coach Berhalter. We compare the playing styles of top teams like Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Germany, and Portugal to NBA teams, adding a unique twist to our analysis. The episode takes a turn into political territory as we dissect the recent presidential debate, examining the broader implications of globalism versus nationalism. From economic policies to social media regulations, we critique the current political climate and its impact on both national and global scales. Tune in for a high-energy, thought-provoking discussion that spans sports, politics, and everything in between.

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Speaker 1:

Thank you, hello guys. Hello guys, welcome to another amazing episode of Fan Faces Plus with your boy, amadou Amadou the Great. On today's episode, we got some pretty exciting things going on. Got an amazing thing happening today we got my boy from Bulgaria by the way of Chicago, by the way of Rochester, by the way of Chicago. We've known each other for a long time. He goes by the name of sometimes for those who don't know well, not even too many people know this he goes by the name of Yasin Iverson. I'm one of the few people that know this, but for most of you people, you may know him online as Rado React, and today we have in the building Rado React and we're going to talk about some sports topics, some public policy topics, politically related, and we're going to just jump right into this stuff. Man, hope you're having a good weekend, a good day. Welcome to the seat, my man. What's?

Speaker 2:

going on. Welcome, welcome, appreciate you having me. I know this has been a long time coming, so thank you very much for having me. I know we've been cooking this up for a while. That's right. We've been trying to get this going for a while. That's right. We've been trying to get this going for a while. Happily, we finally did it, man so let's get into it.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, you came from chicago, you landed in iraq and, uh, we linked up and we said, uh, this gotta be done, so let's get into it let's tell the people how long we know each other first, because they're just gonna think we're just two random people just showing up on a podcast. No, we've known each other for at least like 20 years yeah yeah, yeah, yeah I met this kid.

Speaker 2:

I remember meeting you and then, like the second time I met you, I know that we played basketball and I beat you. That's all I know. That's all I remember. I won't get into none of that because if he can't tell you specifics, it didn't happen. You know we've had a basketball rivalry going for at least like 15 years, playing every single summer.

Speaker 1:

If he cannot tell you specifics. It didn't happen For those that know? No, they don't know nothing, they're like who's Yassin. But anyhow, let's get into it. We got today's topics. We got nepotism, Brownie James and LeBron James the Lakers, you know picking Brownie James, We'll get into that. We got the US Olympics and Katie. The US Olympics and what's her name, Katie?

Speaker 2:

Alex Morgan. Alex Morgan, Of course he's not going to be there. We'll talk about that and we got.

Speaker 1:

Copa America going on right now, copa America going on and EuroLeague going on as well, and we also got what's it called.

Speaker 2:

I mean international soccer is going all over right now, which is crazy.

Speaker 1:

It's awesome, yeah, it's great. We got the presidential debates We'll dab a little bit into that and also Project 25, and what are black jobs and what are Hispanic jobs, let's see. Well, let's jump right into it. Though. We got the first topic at hand. You got, uh, the lakers drafting ronnie james number 55 overall. I believe it was right. Yeah, second round thoughts on that. Where do you stand on nepotism?

Speaker 2:

oh, I mean, if we're going to talk about nepotism as a whole in the nba, I gotta say nepotism has been around for a long time in the NBA. Not necessarily how we're seeing it right now with LeBron and his son, but I mean, if you're looking at GMs, if you're looking at coaches even owners of the NBA owners exchange hands all the time. The dad owns the team, then he passes it down to his children. That happens all the time with GMs. You see, even coaches coaches' sons are always getting brought up into the arena, into the space. They're around basketball all the time, so at least they know how the basketball realm works. So nepotism, I think, has been around for so long and honestly, for people to just bring it up now with LeBron, I do think it's a little ingenuous. But then again, his stats didn't really show last year, so they do kind of have a small point where maybe Bronny should have been undrafted free agent.

Speaker 1:

As this video goes on, I will show you some stats of other comparable players that also got drafted, that you know don't have the cachet, but they got drafted and don't have the parents the parents and LeBron James but got drafted. So we'll do a little comparison graphic-wise.

Speaker 2:

You're right. There's actually this guy, aj Johnson. He got drafted in the first round, late first round, and his stats are very comparable to Bronny Only 2.7 points. Last year he was injured, obviously, so he does have slightly more potential is what the scouts are saying.

Speaker 1:

but similar stats to Bronny and Brani he does have the cachet of his father, of course and wanting to play with him. Let's bring it back. Nepotism in sports in general. Right, it's not only basketball. You got the football players, football coaches yes, cherry picking their sons, cherry picking their best friend's sons, cherry picking their best friends from other staffs and putting them together. You got GMs cherry picking from other teams, from people that they work with, saying I'll bring that person here. We pay attention to Buffalo Bills in Western New York and the Buffalo Bills got what's it called. They got their whole staff, basically the general manager, the head coach from the Carolina Panthers, the general manager, the head coach from the Carolina Panthers. The head coach got hired. Sean McDermott got hired from Carolina and then Brandon Bean got hired from Carolina to come become the general manager for Buffalo. So nepotism is wide and rampant in all sports and all aspects.

Speaker 2:

And I like that you brought that up, because nepotism isn't just, you know, a parent and a son or maybe, like some people related. I like that you brought up friends, because friends all the time will always get that job. It's like a friend of the GM gets the job. Like look what happened in San Francisco. You know, obviously, john Lynch, who's a player as well. I mean, he's never been a GM, any type of scout, and he gets that type of job in San Francisco, which is a huge deal.

Speaker 1:

It happens all the time. We'll even bring it back further the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers and his offensive coordinator that did a blasphemous job with the Denver Broncos I can't remember his name for the life of me, but he did a blasphemous job. The Denver Broncos I can't remember his name for the life of me, but he did a blasphemous job.

Speaker 2:

And they hired him Nathaniel Hackett.

Speaker 1:

Nathaniel Hackett got fired by the Broncos. Excuse me, nathaniel Hackett gets fired by the Broncos for doing a dismal job with Russell Wilson and immediately right after the New York Jets hired him to come become defensive coordinator for Aaron Rodgers. Nowhere in the world as a regular, average Joe does that happen for you If you don't know somebody that knows somebody that can, hey, I want that guy. So nepotism, bronny James and even the Colts. They hired Jeff Saturday. Good point Strictly off of a relationship.

Speaker 2:

Let's talk about Arizona Cardinals. I mean, look at Kyler Murray. The only reason Cliff Kingsbury got hired his first year there is because Kyler Murray and him had a connection.

Speaker 1:

You know back in college they went all the way. Cliff Kingsbury recruited Kyler Murray to Texas A&M.

Speaker 2:

So nepotism happens all over sports and not just in basketball and football. I mean that's where you can kind of see it now more and especially because now kids are brought up today in these sports circles. There's a lot of these sports academies now and a lot of these guys that were in sports they want their kids to succeed, so they bring them into these IMG academies and so it's a lot easier for them to get into it. Look at Christian McCaffrey. I mean his father, ed McCaffrey. I mean his father, ed McCaffrey wasn't the greatest player. I mean he was a great player for the Denver Broncos, but he brought his kid into it and and that's how he was able to do it, you know, into that circle and speaking of Christian McCaffrey, his brother got drafted by Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, it's who you know. It's nice to have some skills, but it's who you know and who your parents can mingle with, and your parents are in that circle. But there's absolutely nothing wrong as a father to be able to give your son a leg up moving on in his future, creating their own life Right. It's like basically saying, nah, I want my son to lift himself up by his bootstraps, right. Nah, I want my son to lift himself up by his bootstraps when you can afford him an opportunity. Whether or not Brownie James makes it in the NBA, that's left to be determined, still unsaid. That's left to be determined whether or not he makes it. But if he doesn't succeed, he has other things to fall back on. But if he does succeed, hey, my dad helped me get this opportunity. My parents furnished me with every possibility that I could possibly have, every opportunity that I could possibly have, and I took the opportunity and I ran with it. I took the opportunity, ran with it, made life better for myself. So there's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 2:

And coming up next it's Bryce James, lebron James, bronny James' younger brother, and I'll be honest, I like him as a player Like scouts, even like him more as a player than Bronny James. I mean, Bryce James is almost 6'8". He's going to be playing similar type of style to his father more inside game, so I think he actually is going to be a top first-round pick.

Speaker 1:

He could be a lottery pick.

Speaker 2:

Now the one thing I will say, though, is because the Lakers did choose him at 55, because the Lakers did choose him at 55, that's where some of the stuff comes into. Where should they choose him with that pick? Or should they give that pick to somebody else, where they could have just chosen him as an undrafted free agent? Nobody would have said anything about that.

Speaker 1:

Obviously, lebron wanted his son to be drafted and have that experience, but that's where some people are saying, oh well, they could have just taken him undrafted and he still would have been on the team Bottom line. Let's win this case. So close. Nepotism worldwide, Of course. In politics, in sports, in whatever field you're in, nepotism is spread. You can't get away from it. So if you're a parent, help your kids get a leg up. If you're a mom or dad or you're a best friend, help your friend get a leg up if you can Put them in a position to succeed. That's my two cents on that. But let's get on to the other sports soccer, soccer, football. We got the US Olympic team not putting in Alex Morgan because some people could say ageism, because they want to infuse some younger blood into the Olympic team. But what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2:

For me. I'm a little bit upset and I'll be honest, I've been watching Alex Morgan for a long time now Because he thinks she's a baddie.

Speaker 1:

That's part of it, but I also think she's a great player.

Speaker 2:

I will say that I think she's an amazing player and she actually really brought a lot of eyes to the women's sport. Not only that, I got to meet her in 2013. I did photoshoot for the United States women's soccer team, in Rochester actually, and I got to meet Megan Rapone, alex Morgan and Drew Holiday's wife.

Speaker 1:

I don't know her name, I'm forgetting her name, lauren Holiday.

Speaker 2:

Excuse me, lauren Holiday shout out, but anyways, I think she's an amazing player. She really brought a lot of eyes to the game back in 2012, if you remember, and that really kind of obviously jumped up her career Once she was in the Olympics. Then it really brought her career to a whole another level. Up to that point, I would say, abby Wambach was the women's face of soccer, and that changed when Alex Morgan was there. Now I will just bring this into another sport quickly. If you look at the WNBA Olympic team, they do have some older stars, like Diana Taurasi, who was kind of like that legacy pick that they added onto the team. I do believe that the US women's soccer team should do the same thing. They should give her that legacy spot, just like they did with Abby Wambach back in 2016 and just like they did with Megan Rapone a few years ago, megan.

Speaker 2:

Rapinoe, megan Rapinoe, sorry.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going to disagree with you because it's not because it has to be done, it's because of plain facts. The US soccer team is the number one team in the world as far as women's soccer goes. So, with that being said, they did not win the World Cup the last time the World Cup was around. And who was part of that team? Who was an essential part of that team when they didn't win the World Cup?

Speaker 1:

Alex Morgan was one of the burgeoning stars on that team, and in order for your team to grow, in order for your team to further achieve success, you need to infuse new blood into it. You cannot maintain the same old same old and expect better results, because that's insanity. You're not doing anything to make your team better. You're keeping on the veteran pigs, the old veterans, and you know they can help with leadership, they can help with guidance and whatnot. That's great, but you need to infuse new blood. You need to infuse people that are going to feel like I need to achieve more Because Alex Morgan has achieved. Alex Morgan has done a whole lot of things when it comes to soccer, so I mean she can still be a behind-the-scenes individual. She doesn't need to be.

Speaker 2:

See, I get your argument, but that would make sense if they wanted to just put her on the starting 11 and brush her out there and let her play most of the game, or let her play most of the game. I don't think they would have done that. I think she would have been on the team and she would have been a substitute. I think she would have been a great reserve to put in late in games, 60th minute and on.

Speaker 2:

There is a better player right now, alyssa Smith I believe her name is who plays the same position as Alex Morgan, who I will say Pernemis, who plays the same position as Alex Morgan, who, I will say, like they've been playing in the trials, she scored a bunch of goals and that's why they like her, that's why they like her in that position, but as a legacy pick, as something to still grow the women's sport, because obviously women's soccer is only popular we can just say it during the Olympic times. Women's soccer, I mean it's tough. It's a tough sport to get off the ground and players like this help that sport get off the ground.

Speaker 1:

I hear you, but there's also another aspect of this right. The US women's soccer team didn't win, and the European soccer teams are getting better and better and they caught up right. Spain's women's soccer team won the World Cup, the Women's World Cup, and they have young blood. England is good as well England's good, yes, and so if America does not progress towards the younger players that seem capable, what are we doing, america? I will agree with you there.

Speaker 1:

What are we doing if we're not trying to up the ante, if we're not trying to bring the next best thing, the next best star that could possibly infuse a lot more energy Right?

Speaker 2:

energy and winning, and winning a lot more energy into the squad.

Speaker 1:

So what are we?

Speaker 2:

doing. I will agree with you there. I think that that's a big part of it. That's probably the main part is because they lost last time and they see that Canada is good now, Japan is good, England is good, Like you said, Spain, obviously they're running.

Speaker 1:

Spain won it.

Speaker 2:

Yep and honestly I believe this year England is up there as one of the.

Speaker 1:

England's definitely competitive, so they have, I believe, one of the top ten players in the world. Lauren, what's her face? I forgot her name. She was the one that kicked a Nigerian player, but she is a beast. So, america, you got to.

Speaker 2:

You do need some new blood. But then again, like I said, in other leagues there's always been legacy picks. I mean, look at Michael Jordan being in the All-Star game at 39, 40 years old. That was a legacy pick, even though he was only averaging like 15 points a game. Look at right now Diana Taurasi going to the Olympics at age 40. You know, she's a legacy pick for the women's basketball game. Obviously, there's been legacy picks all around multiple sports and I think that I really believe that you believe it's a necessity Not necessarily a necessity, that's too much of it.

Speaker 2:

I think that it would have been a great ending to her career. This would have been her last games. Obviously. It would have been a great finish for a great career to a player that's given so much to this game. I do believe that Alyssa Smith she's just a lot better right now at this point in her career than Alex Morgan, but still, Alex Morgan has the name, she has a cachet, she has the followers. That's going to bring more eyes to that game as well, and I feel like it's still going to give more.

Speaker 1:

My last and final thoughts it's a national game, correct? Yeah, alex Morgan's not going to bring more eyes to it, national Pride's going to bring more eyes to it.

Speaker 2:

That's true, but fans want to see the players that they know. Fans want to.

Speaker 1:

They root for who they know Like Cheers. Sometimes you want to like sure they root for who they know like cheers. Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your name boom, great, but we need to keep it moving. The show needs to keep it moving. Alex morgan and team usa need to keep it moving. Maybe she didn't want to play a backup role, so we can't have a good point. Maybe we can't have you. She doesn't want to do it, we can't have you?

Speaker 2:

we don't know a lot of behind the scenes and maybe they asked her that and maybe she said no to it and she only said I'll go if they gave me the starting spot and they just refused to her.

Speaker 1:

So you're right, that could be a big part, like now we're gucci yeah, I mean that girl, alissa, is nice.

Speaker 2:

If you guys haven't seen her, check her out she. She scored some good goals. She's a little bit shorter, uh, as far as, like you know, the girls are.

Speaker 1:

But young blood and a jazz is a team because they're fighting for something. Old blood sometimes maybe fighting for something, but not necessarily. They may be complacent in what they're doing and be okay with it. Definitely complacent, but uh, let's jump into copa america, the united states, a men's soccer team, hey, man.

Speaker 2:

I mean we thought that they were just gonna to get wiped, but I mean they're not doing that bad right now. They're up and down. Obviously, they won a game, they lost a game, but I mean, if you look at just Christian Pulicic as a whole. Pulicic, yeah, I call him Pulicic. You know, give him that little Polish fl mean Pulicic, pulicic. Anyways, I think he's obviously the next name in soccer. There's Landon Donovan, there was Chris Dempsey, I think that was his name right.

Speaker 2:

Christian Dempsey, Christian, no. Dempsey. Clint Dempsey, Thank you. Thank you very much. These names Chris Clint.

Speaker 1:

Christian Christian Pulisic, landon Donovan. Thank you, it's Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, not Christian Pulisic. Excuse me, christian Pulisic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's the next one, and just him obviously showing his game to the world now is going to bring a lot more eyes to US soccer and it's maybe going to even help them in the future for when they go into the next World Cup in 2026. What do you think about them and the Copa America? How do you think they've been?

Speaker 1:

doing? What about Copa America and Team America's what's it called? Team America's ascent right now? I mean, I didn't watch the game. Tim Weir had a red card against Panama and I, you know, I didn't watch the game. Tim Ware had a red card against Panama, and I didn't watch the game because watching the game tells a full story For sure, right In comparison to what the pundits are telling you and the little clips, because when you watch a game you get a full understanding of you know.

Speaker 2:

I will say it was a lot more balanced before. Panama had 10 men, so you're right.

Speaker 1:

Before, panama had 11 men and USA had 10 men.

Speaker 2:

That's what I meant Before the red card. It was a lot more balanced.

Speaker 1:

Sure, that extra play on professional soccer goes a long way. You have one more person that isn't covered. Is the defense going to adjust for that? Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But jeez, team USA right now has the players. They just need that coach that can get them over the top. And Burt Walter, he's cool, but I don't know if he's the guy that can get them over that hump, because Copa America is very competitive, hugely competitive. Cuba, not Cuba. Colombia, colombia, brazil, I mean even Mexico, mexico. Competitive games all around man. No, freaking easy ones right?

Speaker 2:

No, and especially Brazil has been playing lights out in this Copa America themselves.

Speaker 1:

Brazil's got the names and the players and you can't do much about that. You just got to.

Speaker 2:

You know, you do need a lot better coaching and I do think that their style is a lot more of a passing style short passes. So with the Brazilian style that's not going to match up, because they play so quick, they like to move the ball. I do think that Brazil is going to win this Copa America. That's just my take on it.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be between them Mexico and Colombia. I'll disagree with you. Here's why when you saw Brazil Brazil tends to play the style that makes them look so intimidating they come like gang busters, right you, you watch them play. You're like there's no way they're going to lose until they meet that team. It's like I'd compare them to the Timberwolves. This year, timberwolves looked like gangbusters. Anthony Edwards couldn't be stopped, and then he did get stopped by Luka and Kyrie.

Speaker 2:

It's like Until you meet that same match or the matchup.

Speaker 1:

You meet that matchup because soccer people don't pay attention to it, but it's a lot more of a matchup sport versus. You know you can have all the superstars in the world playing your team, but if your superstars don't match up against those guys, the other team's talent, you could look good, but all the other team needs to do is score one goal, two goals. All you need is a few chances man. Get a few chances man, I mean.

Speaker 2:

Get a few chances and play great defense the rest of the game, you're good to go. Yeah, and that's actually what happened to the US that they had a few chances late in the game and that's how they were able to win it against Panama and we'll see what happens next.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's how they were able to lose it, because Panama played great oh they played great.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what I mean. But going into the other side of the world and let's go to Euro. In Euro League right now. The Euro Cup has been going on and now they're into the round of 16. They're moving on and you're seeing some teams actually emerge. What do you think about the Euros?

Speaker 1:

I try to watch it, but I don't get the good games. You got any favorites that you're thinking of this year that you think are really like standing out. Portugal, argentina, germany those are the teams that you know. In my eyes, like you know, I'd want to watch them play more. I like to, I'd like to see what they could do. Yeah, and you know, before, I'm like, okay, let me glam on a team Because Argentina has Messi, has what's it called Aguero. Yeah, they have the players.

Speaker 1:

They just came off of winning a World Cup, so they could automatically be the favorite, which I think they are.

Speaker 2:

Them and Germany are together as top favorites in putting outs.

Speaker 1:

And I think you can see that already.

Speaker 2:

They haven't had a goal scored on them yet in the Euros, and it's already been three games. So they're playing amazing. They're playing incredible. Right now, messi's actually still playing lights out and, I'll agree with you, with Portugal too, I think that Ronaldo himself is like really kind of in his mind to want to win one.

Speaker 1:

He needs to he needs to win one and then possibly go compete for the World Cup and try to win one and then possibly go compete for the World Cup and try to win one. That's his dream, because it's him and Messi. Messi could have one and I don't have one, and I'm considered one of the greatest talents that's going to hurt his legacy just that little slightly.

Speaker 2:

When they look at Messi versus Ronaldo in 20 years, they see well, messi got that World Cup. Ronaldo didn't get to that level. I mean, all the other comparables are similar. You know, you got goals, you got assists. They're very similar. You have other accolades that they all have. You know goal and boost and everything. But bringing it back to the Euros, I do think that the top players in the Euros are going to be guys like Messi, guys like Mbappe. You know the stars, but necessarily those teams are not going to be winning the whole thing. I do believe that a team is going to emerge like Germany, or actually my favorite, who's? England. I think that England could really take it. They got a lot of guys right now that are doing good and Harry is obviously one of them. I do think that they could actually be a favorite to win it.

Speaker 1:

So, all right, they could actually be our favorite to win it All right. Well, stay tuned, folks, we're watching, we're paying attention to bring you titillating, thought-provoking sport commentary on the EuroLeague, eurocup and Copa America. And so far the games have been totally awesome. The games have been energetic, high energy, high octane and you know, let's just keep it going and let's jump on to.

Speaker 2:

Go from one big matchup to another matchup, another matchup.

Speaker 1:

It was big because it's politics, but you know what are we going to do. So how much of the presidential debate did you watch?

Speaker 2:

So I'll be honest, I watched most of it. I did kind of tend to zone off a little bit towards the end of it, but I did watch most of it. It was interesting. I will say I do feel slightly bad for Biden the way that he came out. He did look a little bit lethargic the first few minutes of it. Obviously he had a few missteps and people have talked about that all over on social media, but then again he did kind of bring it back in the mid, in the middle of of the debate. His energy kind of got better. He was starting to be more assertive about himself and actually, you know, he kind of stood up for himself which is is good against a guy like trump who was gonna boast about himself, who's gonna boast about his abilities and that's what he does best is boast. You want. You want somebody to kind of like come in and actually, you know, put his feet down and actually give you the truth.

Speaker 1:

So, for those of you watching out there, I have a small topic to just like embark on. It's kind of a rant, but not really short. So, donald Trump, throughout the whole debate, you could for people that have you know, that know people you have close friends, you have family members, that you know them to be liars. You know a liar never keeps anything specific, never gives you details when they lie. It's a vague conversation. It's very vague, it's very out there. It's not like. So I went to the store I picked up Wrigley's bubble gum and it was in a green pack. Then I got back in my car, turned it on, I had on some green shoes or gray shoes and then I made a left turn, got by the red light and kept going.

Speaker 2:

That's true when you're lying. It's hard to keep those details steady.

Speaker 1:

When you're lying, there's no details in there for you. You make it such a general, blanket statement that if they have to come back to you in any way, shape or form, you'd be like, yeah, I kind of said that, or I sort of said that, instead of saying, yep, I said it was a sunny day. I said it was a sunny day, I had Wiggly's green bubble gum, and then I had on my red shoes and I passed. I made a left and stopped at the red light. Details there's no details in this conversation whatsoever. Why is there no details? Because he's lying to you. He's always known to lie to people, but there's some people that believe in him as if he's the only grill. You know what? There's nothing left to be said to you. If you, then America is going to turn into a third world country.

Speaker 2:

The issue with people is they've lived through the past four years and you know, not giving credit to either one of them because, honestly, they both had bad terms if you look at it. They both had a lot of issues during their terms. But people in the last four years are seeing gas prices go up, the inflation go up. Obviously there's different reasonings for that. Like there's wars around the world, there's COVID happened, so people had to stay home as well and obviously production wasn't going on and it just kind of been starting up the last two years. But people are in a worse place than they were four years ago.

Speaker 2:

So I do believe when people have that, they usually get tired of it and then it's kind of like a rocking chair moves from side to side or kind of like a pendulum swing. You know you go from one side and you go to the other. That's why it usually takes eight years, you know, to happen. That's why after Obama's term, people kind of got tired of the Democrats and they wanted to move to a Republican. Same with, like the George Bush era. You know it was eight years to him. People got tired of that. They wanted to move to a totally different change. I didn't think it was going to be that quick with Joe Biden, but it really looks like people are starting to get tired of him, and even the Democrats are saying now should we have another candidate instead of him? In a Democratic National Convention, should we bring in somebody like Michelle Obama or Kamala Harris? If Democrats are saying this, then you know that something is worrisome.

Speaker 1:

It is worrisome, but you cannot have Donald Trump in office, because if you do lots of mass deregulation, and if you have mass deregulation, who knows what you could have in your drinking water, who knows what you could have in your house, in your electronics?

Speaker 2:

I mean, companies are going to be dumping stuff into rivers which Companies could do whatever the hell they want and nobody can do anything to them.

Speaker 1:

You take them to court. They have deeper pockets. The Supreme Court is in these companies' pockets. All they have to do is say, hey, what's his name? Alito, here's some millions, go our way, or what's that guy's name? Don't look this way. Don't look this way. Don't look this way.

Speaker 1:

so if you vote for a Republican candidate, deregulation, mass deregulation already started happening with the Chevron, the Chevron Act, right, yeah mass deregulation since the 80s, you're right so, if we can't regulate the good things that we need to have happen for us, these judges, the good things that we need to have happen for us, these judges are going to take things into their own hands and totally, however, have a dystopian state in America.

Speaker 2:

However, I will bring a counterpoint to that. It's because, yes, they're on the company side that would have deregulation. But then if you look at the Democratic side, their sort of deregulation is kind of social media and kind of putting people in bubbles.

Speaker 2:

And you know, obviously there's been a lot of talk about it of free speech being controlled. In certain websites, which they are private websites, they're allowed to do what they want. You know, facebook, instagram, all these websites. They're allowed to have their own policies on what's allowed in that website. But then again, does the government have a right to go to those companies and tell them this is what you must do? So I do think that on that side, you know, on democratic side, they're kind of pushing that towards social issues on a simpler note, you have your mother.

Speaker 1:

You respect her, so she tells you something. If she tells you something's bad for you, would you listen to her?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I would. Here's the thing Growing up. Of course you would want to listen to your parents, but what about? Once you've lived once, you've made your own mistakes and you've learned.

Speaker 1:

If you can foreshadow things that are going to happen, would you prevent it from happening? Of course, of course. If Trump becomes president, I can foreshadow America turning into a developing country.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you can definitely see that because you've seen it before, you've seen his past four years.

Speaker 1:

Because of deregulation right, all these companies can do what they please, as they please, with nobody questioning them. We need these companies to be questioned. They cannot just behave on their best interest. That's true. Need these companies to be questioned? They cannot just behave on their best interest. That's true. Deciding that the CEO gets a $40 billion bonus because we decided not billion million a $40 million bonus and just increase prices? Imagine the plan for one of Trump's plans, the simplest plan he's like I'll take away income tax.

Speaker 2:

Doesn't that make you feel good I mean the way that he says it, sure, but once you get it, once you listen to the actual details, then it's really not good. I agree with you there. Take away income tax, I'll increase tariffs. Who's paying for those tariffs? Obviously it's going to be the production of goods and services. All the goods are going to go up and who's going to pay for them?

Speaker 1:

it's going to be us, it going to be the lower classes. So for people thinking it's bad now for us, if that's to happen, and act it, don't you think yeah, I take home $100,000, but I got to pay for a slice of pizza 20 bucks.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing, though In the past four years, hasn't that been happening already? Wages certainly have been staying similar, but the inflation has been rising steadily as well.

Speaker 1:

Inflation's rising. There are certain things people are not taking into account. Right. Inflation happened because of COVID. Inflation happened because of the Ukraine-Russian war. There's multiple reasons.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Okay, but I wouldn't say those are the only reasons, because if you look at profits of companies, profits of companies are actually at the highest levels they've ever been.

Speaker 1:

That happened because there was a Republican in the House deregulating.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking about since 2022 up until 2024 after.

Speaker 1:

COVID. Donald Trump's policies started taking effect because of deregulation. You mean the tax cuts that he, the tax cuts that he enacted into companies. They took effect under Joe Biden's watch. Tax cuts that enacted into companies once. They took effect under Joe Biden's watch, and when they take effect now, these companies can decide hey, I'm going to get as much money as I possibly can and gouge everybody. And now it looks like Joe Biden did it. Joe Biden didn't do it. Joe Biden's just trying to enact his own laws, and his own laws will take effect after he gets out of office.

Speaker 2:

Well, and he can't do it right now because there's Republicans in the House right now as well.

Speaker 1:

But if he stays in office another four years. Yes, he's a little, he's old, it shows he's a little bit slow, but the presidency is kind of like.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to say this word technically because it's not like a puppetry, but it's kind of like a figurehead position. So you have people that are gonna do work and you're for you, you know. Obviously he has a lot of advisors. So, even though he's old, that's not the biggest issue to me. My biggest issue is not that he's old, it's not that he had like a bad night at the debate stage, because people have had bad nights before. Sure, many people have had a bad night, and then they come out and they become president after that. My, my issue really is um is are we going to be seeing the same things? Is he going to be bringing in tax cuts to the rich, as he's saying? He's talking about 25% tax cuts, oversight tax increases for billionaires, which would bring in, he said, $400 million a year, which is going to be a great deal.

Speaker 2:

But then again he's also talking about cutting a lot of different programs, just like Trump was doing, and a lot of these things aren't really matching up with democratic standards, as democratic standards were social policies and helping the middle and the lower class, and it's not really showing that way in his favor right now. In the past four years at least Of course, like you said a lot of those issues are from different things wars, covid but then again a lot of those issues also companies just being greedy.

Speaker 1:

Definitely, absolutely. So. The common man, you and I, we can't do much about it, but what we can do is go vote, I don't. I can say I don't care who you vote for, but I really do. I don't want project 25 to take over. I don't want that to take over. I don't want that to be our commonplace. I don't want the world America basically to be not a utopia but a dystopia, and for everything to go down in chaos. And then Donald Trump could decide ah, if he gets into the White House, yeah, I'm ruler supreme, I'm not going anywhere and anybody that goes against me, they just die. Because project 25 says I'll go after my political enemies. I could do whatever it is I want to do, and I can only hire people that follow what I say. Nobody else.

Speaker 2:

I mean we've seen it happen before in the USSR and with Putin's reign in the last 20 years.

Speaker 1:

We don't want Putin in here. We don't want Russia in here. We don't want developing, we don't want putin in here, we don't want russia in here. We don't want uh developing. We don't want to develop in world mentality in america. America is supposed to be landed a free.

Speaker 2:

Let's continue to keep it that way but speaking of project 25, do you want to give the people a little bit more uh info about that, and should we have a conversation? About that because that is very interesting topic. Project 25 has been in the news lately and all around social media people have been talking about it.

Speaker 1:

Um, for those of you that don't know, I mean the basic gist of it is a lot of deregulation and a lot of uh people, a lot of people that are uh, what's it called? That are sympathetic to the president's uh whim. Whatever the president says, however, he says it has to be done. That's how it will be done, and anybody that's not loyal to the president can lose their job immediately, and it's only sympathizers and loyalists to the president that stay, and those will be people that are loyal to President Donald Trump. That is all. And Donald Trump may speak a lot he talks about when he talks, it's a lot of word salads. It's a lot of whatever. Whatever may be no specifics, but the people behind him that want to turn this country really into the communist country that they want it to be Will be enacting his rules and legislation and turning this country into dystopia, and I don't want that.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely a lot of nationalism in their camp. You're right about that. It's the nationalistic mentality that they that America first. That's where they came from. It's the nationalistic mentality the Reagans, the, you know, even the Lyndon B Johnson's like.

Speaker 1:

That was the whole mentality of that, what we got to understand American first, this whole world is connected. If you understand american first, this whole world is connected.

Speaker 2:

If you put america, it's never been america first.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just saying the products are not from america.

Speaker 2:

We're not, we don't make anything here we don't create anything like, yeah, okay, we create art, we create movies, the best movies, the best music. I would say, you know, um, obviously sports. But if you think about actual innovations, products, I mean most of the innovations around the world, since 99 of human history has come from europe, africa and asia, yep, so I mean, if you think about america, america has only been around for 250 years. That's not a long time. They don't have a long cultural history.

Speaker 1:

If we're saying if we're saying america first, nationalism movement, understand the whole world is interconnected. There's no way for you just to be like america first and have that be a thing. It can't be a thing. We are all interconnected. There's, uh, inflation in africa, there's inflation in asia, there's inflation in europe. We're all interconnected.

Speaker 1:

You feel it in the place that you know the most, but there's people in africa that are like, goddamn, the world is hard. Yeah, but they feel it over there where they know the most. We feel it over here where we know it the most. But at least in America you have the opportunity to go work, make some money and be able to purchase things that you want, whereas in those countries they give you a salary that makes no sense. The prices of goods increase and your salary stays the same. You can't do that. You can't live like that. Those people can't, those people cannot live like that and we continue to have them live like that. The whole world is interconnected. If America just stays to America and we don't deal with any of those other countries, the cost of goods are going to go up, the cost of everything is going to go up and we're all going to be like man. I regret not doing that.

Speaker 2:

It's a good point you bring up, though, because here you do have the opportunity of jobs Like, okay, maybe you're not going to have the best, you're not going to find the best job right away, but you have the opportunity to find a job and after that you can find a different job if you don't like it.

Speaker 2:

In different countries in Europe, in Africa, in certain countries in Asia as well that are not, as you know, that are more third world type countries, second world countries, it's a lot harder to find that dream job that you want or even something that you went to college for I mean, I have cousins there in Bulgaria that they went to college for a certain thing, but they had to move into a totally different direction after college.

Speaker 1:

Nobody's hiring, we go back to nepotism. It's who you?

Speaker 2:

know when you get into those countries, it's who you know. So you need to know somebody at that point. You need to have a friend that's going to be able to get you in and once you're in there you can actually show your skills. And, like you said, with that inflation, inflation is going on all over the world and some places are even killing it way more than America, but then again bringing it to a different direction. Is globalism really the right way to move about it? You know, have open borders.

Speaker 1:

The world's interconnected. If we don't work together, what the hell are we doing?

Speaker 2:

Has the world ever worked together, though? But the world needs to work together. It needs to. In a perfect world it should, and I agree.

Speaker 1:

We all depend on each other for certain things. There's stuff that's made in Europe, that's made that comes from Africa, that's not, definitely can't be found in America. If we all work together, it's for the greater good, a global world, a better good. So what are we doing?

Speaker 2:

I agree with you. I think that it's actually going to help. It's going to help people be more open-minded, actually, if it's a more open world. There's a stat that just it always blows my mind when I hear. The stat is like only 15 to 20 percent of americans have their passports and around 50 percent of americans have only gone 45 miles away from their city their whole, like living their whole life. Can you imagine that? Like only going 50 miles away from your own city your whole life? So they really don't have that look open mind of of a global world. They see it on a smaller scale and that's why a lot of the you know, as we were talking about earlier, is the globalist versus the nationalist.

Speaker 2:

A lot of these localized communities that haven't been open more or seen different things, they kind of stand more nationalistic. Then you have bigger cities that are filled with more immigrants and more open-mindedness, more college kids that are open to worldly ideas, and you see, that's actually part of the globalism ideas that are coming to the table and, honestly, with Project 25, along with Agenda 2030, which is another big deal that's being talked about, with immigration and 15-minute cities I don't know if you've heard about this topic. It's a term that's been being used lately A 15-minute cities. I don't know if you've heard about this topic. It's a term that's been being used lately. A 15-minute city is basically somewhere where you can live, work and have entertainment. You don't need to have coverage you don't need to go anywhere, yeah you won't be able to go anywhere, you won't be able to travel.

Speaker 2:

So in a sense, that's kind of bringing that into a more nationalistic sense and not into a global, you know, world. So that's the one thing that kind of worries me is both of these parties the globalists, nationalists they're all kind of going against each other and they have been for the last, you know, since Vietnam has been really going on, since Kennedy, you know. So it's been weird, it's been a weird time. I will say that it's been a weird time.

Speaker 1:

I mean we've talked a lot today. We've touched on a whole bunch of topics. We went from sports to politics donald trump, joe biden, soccer, basketball we hit it all, man, and we got this guy here today, brought some energy with it and, uh, today's been a great show.

Speaker 2:

I really appreciate you being here thank you so much for having me, man. I know it's been a while that we wanted to do this.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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