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Illuminating Change: Sierra Leone's Journey to Sustainable Energy, Infrastructure Revival, and a Greener Future
Join the conversation with the insightful Mohamed as we delve into one of today's most pressing issues: sustainable energy in Sierra Leone. Discover the urgency of overhauling the nation's energy infrastructure and what sustainability means for the average Sierra Leonean. We cover the stark contrast in access to electricity between Sierra Leone and countries like America, and how this impacts everything from healthcare to local businesses. Listen as we unveil the potential of wind turbines and solar panels to revolutionize Sierra Leone's energy sector, and the challenges of updating infrastructure that hasn't been touched since the British colonial era.
As Amadu the Great, I'm excited to share how a consistent electricity supply could transform lives in Sierra Leone. In this episode, we highlight the societal, environmental, and economic benefits of sustainable development, and how access to energy is a game-changer for quality of life. The ripple effects of energy access on economies and communities are unpacked, drawing comparisons to the convenience revolution brought on by services like Amazon. Tune in to hear us navigate the trade-offs involved in investing in infrastructure, and how we can balance progress with the well-being of our nation.
Wrapping up, we cast a vision for the future of Sierra Leone's energy sector, emphasizing the importance of green policies and renewable sources, particularly solar energy. Imagine a Sierra Leone where every new building is equipped with solar panels, creating a greener and more independent nation. We discuss incentives that could fast-track solar adoption and ponder the long-lasting effects of sustainable progress. This isn't just another sports debate; it's an engaging dialogue about Sierra Leone's development in energy and infrastructure. Join us on Fan Faces for an episode that promises to spark conversation and inspire action.
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Another fabulous episode of Fan Faces. It's been a while. It's been a while but I got a guest here, a repeat guest. I'm at Bangorah, he's in the building. He's here to educate us, educate the Sierra Leonean people, educate the world at large, educate Americans, you know, just to give us some insight on sustainability and renewables. And I thought I'd bring them back for part two because this is information that we, the people, want to know. Me, I want to know I'm super interested in the renewables, I'm super interested in sustainability, and that's because I come home from Salon and we come home from Salon and you day you get for a beef family with 10 things and they cause.
Speaker 1:We get electricity, 24-7 electricity. We have electricity but it's not like when you're in America. Electricity breaks down in America, takes an hour or so. They fix it. Electricity breaks down in Sierra Leone. Maybe you get it today, maybe you don't get it today, maybe you get it a month later. It all depends on where you live.
Speaker 1:But today we're here to, you know, discuss some things that possibly, moving on in the future, sierra Leone is ever growing, ever evolving. We're here to just have you know. People think about certain things and keep it in the back of their mind and especially with the new communities that are coming up, like you know, you have Tokyo, you have Hastings, the newer communities that are rising, we need to start to use, we need to start directing our energy towards renewable energy, wind turbines and stuff like that to grow the country's electricity infrastructure, because I know, with electricity being a stable constant in our lives in Sierra Leone, it would make for a great change in the country. It would make for a great improvement. And there's already some celebrities coming in, one celebrity, idris Elba, coming in in Sierra Leone, but we'll get into that a little later. But, mohamed, talk to the people, sure, sure.
Speaker 2:I'm very happy to be here again and to share my take on clean energy in Sierra Leone and generally on sustainability.
Speaker 1:So sustainability to the common person that doesn't know what is that?
Speaker 2:So maybe I think, in short, when we talk about sustainability, we are essentially just saying I mean, usually you hear people saying sustainability, sustainable development. Essentially they are saying any development where you are catering for the current generation with something in mind to ensure that future generations are not deprived from resources. So essentially, in short, that is sustainable development.
Speaker 1:So ever evolving the issue we have in Sierra Leone. We wanted our independence. We got it in 1961. The British left us and we never really developed or evolved our infrastructure we don't have. Some houses don't have full plumbing, some houses don't have full electricity. The British left us with an infrastructure but we never added on to it, improved on it, because in most other countries your infrastructure is improved upon so that way when you go build a house, you have running water, you have indoor plumbing, you have electricity, you have power 24-7. And that really has hurt us as a country, because now we depend on a Turkish ship that's off the coast, that we owe $40 million that we can't pay and they're not giving us electricity. So we got to figure out other ways.
Speaker 2:Well, it's interesting to also understand the background of energy. There is a huge correlation between quality of life and energy. So when we talk about energy, we should be talking about electricity and the other types of energy that we depend on. If you check here, for example, my average monthly bill sorry, not the bill, my monthly electricity consumption is like 150 kilowatt hour.
Speaker 2:I will tell you this. According to the World Bank, in Sierra Leone the average for a typical home, the entire home, is like five kilowatts. So you can see this huge correlation, because here I do not have the option to probably turn off my freezer or to have life.
Speaker 1:No, you have that option. It's not something that's in your mind. There's power available. Why am I going to turn that off? Let's keep it running.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure. So there is this huge correlation between a very strong one, between the amount of energy you need to survive and the quality of your life. So I guess, when you talk about infrastructure, that the bridges, like, gave us the left-out.
Speaker 2:They left out something, but then we have not been able to build up on it. We have to take a check on that. How much energy do you think the average person in Sierra Leone will actually need? Why do we need to build on infrastructure? Why do we need to have the grid extended to every house in Sierra Leone? You have to think about all of that.
Speaker 1:You spoke about quality of life. Have you ever been to a country besides Sierra Leone where a hospital is not open when you need it?
Speaker 2:No, actually.
Speaker 1:So if you have electricity in a hospital, it goes a long way into saving people's lives. You're not just a patient sitting in the dark and you're like, oh, this is life as I know it. You are a person that's being taken care of and they could see, and they can help, because there's power running 24-7, all the necessary equipment to take care of your life, to make sure that for make sure, say you, quality of life, the way you want to live and the things that you need for keeping you alive they keep you alive and then they work properly. So electricity right now, salomon, you say now 5 kilowatts hours, yeah, like on average. On average, so let's say you get 24-7 electricity without interruption, do you think that consumption will go up or go down?
Speaker 2:Before I answer your question, I want to play both sides in this conversation, like the sides of my background in power systems in junior high and now I do sustainability In power systems. We also need to understand energy is expensive. Infrastructure is expensive, so when they build like a transmission line and for making it last for 50 years, so when that person puts money for last for 50 years and so because it is very, very expensive. When somebody invests in energy project if I expect, say, people are ready for use, but if you go to the average home in Salomon right now, somebody will prefer for cook with gas or people will prefer for cook with coal Most of them activities there. They will use something we need.
Speaker 1:We don't need electricity, we don't need electricity I get what you, they say, but make an interject. You know what to make. People in luck for order from Amazon Make a lot Convenience. Yes, you know how much they charge for order on Amazon For things they are taking. Buy something for $2, $3. And eventually they raise the price them up. We didn't increase the price them. We not left them. You know what to make. We not left them Because of the COVID-19.
Speaker 1:Exactly you see, don't naios? You see, you go to the app on Amazon. You see, I want this. I want that you click, click or that puts on a e-bag and then you check out, and then two days later, if you're an Amazon Prime member if you're an Amazon Prime member.
Speaker 1:Two days later, three days later, the package is at your front door. All you have to do is open that front door, open your demote, take them and you know you get what you need. So now, people and we have to use gas, the people that we don't get on so much, then go use coal. The people that we don't get on so much, then go use wood paper, whatever they need for do we, you know, cause these people don't have the ways and means that we have here. But if there's another way, an easier way, which is you have your kitchen inside your house, you have your stove, all you gotta do is click, turn it's on. You have instantaneous warm water, instantaneous warm food. Would you not use that?
Speaker 2:Of course you would, but okay. So, as I say, I want to play both sides. Play both sides the sustainability part, where I mean everybody forgets clean energy or so, and then the power systems background right, where I mean we talk about infrastructure and everything. So the only thing about sustainability you get like three components in hand right. One in our society, like people dealing with people, to the environment. Right, that means the resourceful we use inside the commode. If we use a past mark, it affects in generation after we, right. And then you get the economics of it, right, how much it costs to invest these resources for serve people, them right. If you check Salon, we get constraints for all of them here. Right, we're constraints for the economics, we're constraints for even the resources People and they say Salon, get Baku San, baku San. But how much it costs you for convert solar, like the average cost for major install solar like ours, how much we play both For that upfront cost right, Right, independent side.
Speaker 1:That money they come off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then on infrastructure wise right.
Speaker 2:If governments today choose for say, okay, I focus all major sources on building, extending the grid, building like a power plant and things like that. How much of we current projects we forgot to social issues them could be diverted to that, and how much complain people and go get you understand. So it's like something in sustainability we call like a wicked problem. Right, you have to solve one thing, another thing, depend on that thing, and then you pull up. You have to it's okay, man, solve this too, and then another one, the pull up. So it's a wicked problem. That for solar it takes a lot of like a progressing place.
Speaker 1:Well, it's the natural domino effect in life. Every action has a consequence, good or bad. So if you say the upfront cost of solar, you say okay, for me you put basic solar for cover, you refrigerate, you freezer. You say okay, that's 50 million leons or 100 million leons, okay. You say okay, I'll invest this money because I know in turn what this will bring for me. It will give me way from a small market vendor I didn't have a lovely, I didn't have a pencelle.
Speaker 1:I can put some drinks, then put me what I didn't do. I know they don't turn on the block, but they had that sun. But they work. I don't know, I drink them. I go buy drinks, then go maintain, then go maintain past all man and whenever somebody come by they don't know, then they go, you know, say me on the coldest and they quench the people in thoughts. So people will come back to me. So are you willing to make that investment up front? Can you afford to make that investment? And if you can't, is there somebody you can ask to help you make that investment?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure. So when, historically, did I this like series of activities you can connect, for sure, how people don't solve energy issues as like access to energy or access to electricity, go to Dubai? Right, of course, that's one, but one way is to just sacrifice part of what you can benefit now. Sacrifice part of what you could benefit now for the long term, right. Salomon Sabi.
Speaker 1:Donde, yes, no, I'll give you an example, because all you say is what you get from me now, buddy, what do you have from me right now? Give me now, now.
Speaker 2:Like I want all of it right. I can give you an example One thing we, anybody, would do, like clean energy, whether or not solar, whether or not, I mean, are they use solar? Because they come on a salon? They come on for sure.
Speaker 1:Nine weeks Sabi.
Speaker 2:Whether or not solar, one thing we can do for convince somebody. If you get a business let's say you run generator, you're the one five liters per day. If you check that five liters they'll make us say for the one year you cost you 10 million lions on just on fuel, this not include the cost of your generator.
Speaker 2:Just on the fuel right, it's where you're born. So once you wake, where people are waiting to install solar for do or waiting in the practice, not that then they will take the cost of your current energy consumption for the one year, like your fuel cost, and they will say, okay, if you continue for spend the same money, if we convert that money, they will put up a solar and so it will cost you three days as of today following install this solar. But then the good thing that in the next three, four years you the break even we are in. After that three years as you energy expenses, they become almost zero, just profit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now I mean for say, just profit.
Speaker 2:So this, not just one thing. We one way I can convince people when it comes to energy, when you scale this up, let's say for the entire country, if government for do down the mid sale, it need for cut, cut small, small budget them, pinch here, pinch here, and then we can together and say, okay, make, we make will build the next big plant. I will tell you one story when I go home 2020, I think I had a successful job and the one that I was forced to them it's a and EGTC. Is it EGTC?
Speaker 1:I forget the one that we generate, the only one that women savvy boss my answer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I used to be it. And I think EGTC also not only generate or show. Okay, yeah, when I go, I meet with one of the technical directors, they tell me, say, saloon, as we speak, we don't get no generation plans, apart from the ideal we rely on. Then car power ship them for supply the city specifically.
Speaker 1:So essentially we want some parts of the city, not all parts of the city. Keep that in mind, if you get in the. West side. Yeah you're good to go if you're on the east side. God bless you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it come on for make somebody go out with Inogelite Bobby young with a good, with a good 30 days without light and we enable get slightly behind.
Speaker 1:I got it for them because that if Austin, danny don't delight and then come for like a five, ten minutes, you don't go back. Yes.
Speaker 2:But, but then we've understand, like the overall System winning for change. You've got all and what's the change? I mean convert, like the redirection of of budget, right, yeah, from whether it's education, all other pada, as I seen, a weekend problem, right as we pull, come on a year with a constraint down a certain day for focus now, but then we very fortunate salon, of course, on the echo, as echo, as galaking, entire plan for for the Considering our stuff, okay, and one of the mandate with salon, get by Um to 2030. Now, for make sure, see the grid at least extend to 92 percent of every single unit, not to just salon on America.
Speaker 1:President Barack Obama and I input stand a light up Africa. I shall say, as the first African president, when American in Decide, say 2008, today in Lexham, and it will visit me, motherland. Yeah right in go day that Kenya nothing say this place that go well, something Kenya no dark make a note of but, Africa that go?
Speaker 1:Where do you blame any land? I can't see nothing. So in decide, say in one for light up Africa, yeah, so it puts that implementation in place and that money they aside cause. Then the key is to Africa. Every year, every year also, we then make them budgets down the day, parts of the budget for g8 to Africa and part of the budget day die a day Now for light up Africa. So to that Represent, to that build a, and I'm only day with him, set aside Nine makes alone and echo us get the opportunity for at least 92 percent, but hopefully we down the right path and All the new economy, all the new Communities, everything they make down it for be a staple part of the infrastructure. Because you know, therefore, think I'm again, you know, therefore struggle again. You know, say what a bill this also I get for preparing for connect light. I can't like okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I glad you bring that me up right. Maybe make us understand how energy to work. Nassalon, right, we get like the one there with the generate the energy and they'll get one. We get to the transmission system and and we get the distribution system, the easy parts pattern, all not for generate or for distribute. The most expensive partner for transmits the power. We get one of the oldest transmission network.
Speaker 1:We know If the infrastructure, when the beach is left, we are left with us on day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so. So the difference, like some of them, country, they like you know, no, no, even good, country level, like states level, new York, for example, get to it and call the New York independent Service provider, so okay, like NY, is something like a service operator. Yeah, so then, not like a desire, not like the facilitates, buy and sell of electricity, mm-hmm. What then? The buy from people already generate electricity, like different company, the way Some, and they use hydro, some under use solar they don't want to use In generator for cell to the grid, yeah right, then they control, like the grid, the transmission line distribution.
Speaker 2:But Salon, we just get one one, like one entity where they all get some direction to the government, government 19 charge of them, right, so you see, so there is no that, not no delay, not no delay. Independence, wearing one body. Go all your post responsible, because what I generate, essentially the same, the only other, the same Ministry of Energy will, like 90, control them All, right, but so that they mean, say, before the Expecting they will get for do it something and before the expect solution for the week outside the grid, like them in the grid, them then solar, wouldn't it? If you go to my checkerites now go to my bad junction. You see solar. Then it is the other part of we central grid, right? So then just they'll be upgraded by small, small company there.
Speaker 2:And then company need the only survive. Based on that, more about junction. If example, how much people able accept see them for use electricity now.
Speaker 1:Manne get TV now, so you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so an interesting part we go. If you go check the entire friend now, then try the entire day at least two or three times more than waiting people in Africa to own the pay right, because that's more company and the government will get the extra money if I subsidize Electricity, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So if we take all of this, come back to To the idea of sustainability means see, we fall before. Be careful how we, the First people, and for use clean energy. Example, because if I believe that some village and Miss more generator in a study, enough or it's efficient for giving me light, make a continued that one. If us, you understand right, because most likely because even the small, small mini group retorts. And when they can't be, then again like some commitment with government saying I can't build this, I don't go find investors, them, we're investing this project and this project for take 20 years for make a repeat, them back, right.
Speaker 2:So if tomorrow, government just wake up, government, okay, the, this president's can be seen now at extended grid all side. What's in the apple? Govind would be for pay, in the most likely case, most of this, most more company, and because government, the previous government or whichever meeting child we don't agree, see, I'll make a contract, yeah, so you see, I. So sustainability and and, and and the and the availability of resources, whether natural or financial, they need for go like on and on and on yeah, okay, well, that's great.
Speaker 1:So For who now? People that way, they use charcoal. If electricity come on our way Now try for combat small, small. You don't need for be at full speed, because if food tastes better, some 10 and a which charcoal that's also. You know the gas Born as the way they came by or the electricity way, thank you. So plunder, so that's understandable. But uh, wind turbines, we not get one nasalon, but we get them beaches, them Boku. Yes, so waiting, you think, say because they say one wind turbine can power up a whole town. Yeah, so waiting, you think, say you know that the benefits of made them wind come, then wind turbines, then they nasalon, either at the rural side or free town.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, so, so, and I know some company right now, even the one for is it born to.
Speaker 1:Shabu Island.
Speaker 2:Shabu Island yes then they consider for use wind, right. Of course, when you consider technology, you have to consider the resource available. Yeah, that area, salon, one of the resource. Students will get plenty and water, yes, I do. Now the anime. If you check the 2015 energy plan, we supposed to get about almost 90%, like it is 7.6%, of the future energy from Ido. We got plenty water, yeah, but wind, and I'm very sure how much wind we get, but I'm sure, like I think it's called up to post-energize, right, I should say they don't do the efficiency study and they understand, say, by Shabu Island wind.
Speaker 1:Well, the facts of the matter is all, then, new communities are waiting to make. All the new communities that there are. People are building houses. They're closer to the beach areas. Yeah, my father has a house around the Tokyo area and there's a lots of winds, lots of high winds over there. Yeah, you know you could put a wind turbine and if you put it there it could power up that whole new community that's being built. So there's, I feel like the people that are building that are coming from overseas, you're building, which you should consider something like that, because if you're near the beach, you can either go wind turbine or you could go solar, solar, and they say sometimes, if you use too much solar, then the countries that are near the sun will turn into the Amazon's, because now it will be well, it will block the sun from hitting you.
Speaker 2:That's a very big myth in itself right, because when we make, a start with the solar part, because in the last you mentioned when Sunday for them, for the solar technology. If you observe solar get blue, blue coating. The reason for that the main component for any solar panel is silicon. Silicone in the emit lights past mark like it is shine past mark right.
Speaker 2:So, then the quota which, like some night, hits something wouldn't make it blue, wouldn't make you know, wouldn't make it like you know. Send the lights back for go when they come inside. Yeah, when they come inside. And when they compare the size of the of the earth right and the size of the sun right, their size of the earth so small that even if you cover the entire earth, I don't think they affect the solar panels. Yeah, you know the affect, like I don't know how that idea did it, but you know, getting no major environmental effect on the earth.
Speaker 1:But what's the name of the case? If you cover the whole Sahara desert with solar panels, you know power, the entire world. Yes, yes, and I mean, if you do the math, that's supposed to be true, but then over time, because you do Dandi, because you do Dandi the what's it called? The land? They become more fertile because, in cover, Cover.
Speaker 2:But then what about the house? Already, like you, just put it on top of the house, right, yeah, become a rooftop. Yeah, yeah, and Elon Musk, yes, yes. Well, now the one advantage and the way solar gets over other clean energy technologies like wind, for example, if you put a wind turbine, I am most likely pushing a farm around it because they can get noise. Also, you need to put a near, which are people in the? I make what you mentioned seeing at the beach when wind turbine the tone people are not able to sleep around, like it can be very noisy, okay, and I have a lot of concerns about even then they kill both them, right, but of course, because fly blind.
Speaker 2:Yes, so that's the put back to the whole idea of sustainability, like the three components right, the people, environment and resources. And the basis. With the basis we then getting in the team up on, when I did have a say, any resource we are available. If I will use a now right and then just say it's sufficient for people in the future, just fear of wanting this, not learning for me as well as learning for you.
Speaker 1:I'm here to learn from somebody that knows more than me and I'm here to give you this information and give you this opportunity to learn this information, because it is invaluable information for you to learn today, learn for tomorrow, pass it on to somebody and don't tell stories that really did you heard from he say, she say, but it's directly from a source that that's viable and reliable. This is an opportunity for everybody to learn to feed your mind, feed your soul and, like me, talking about wind turbines, I don't know much about them, but I'm being corrected, I'm being educated. That's completely fine. That's why we're here to learn and be educated. Sure, sure.
Speaker 1:So I do really believe if there's light 24, seven, sierra Leone it will change the economy tremendously. Definitely, because If you are a car mechanic at seven o'clock, I'm done. You don't have light in your shop, so you're done. But if your car mechanic and you want to make extra money or you want to keep your garage open 24, seven for emergency services, you can keep your shop open. Yeah, somebody could be working in there in case somebody wakes down. Yeah, and you could station yourself like a franchise have wanted every Tolstop. Yeah, and you know, once people get there to get the car stowed to you, to your shop.
Speaker 1:Yeah you can take your things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I can add to that we're. One of the first communities that we connected was around the local massama community. Right, I remember we went there like I think seven months after, like to to connect to another community that was not very far from local massama and and the chiefs, like the elders in the communities you are telling us how They've seen like a lot of young people coming from those small villages like to live, like to stay there because there was like Electricity, even though it was not for 24 hours, sometimes maybe from 15 hours or so to 15 hours as playing a young people right yeah.
Speaker 2:And they saw like a huge increase in the number of passes. For how do you call it? The? For the becky exam, like a huge increase because these kids they used to study, like they go to study camps and there was electricity, even though you could argue that. But it's so easy, like for communities to to connect, like, like the dots, like access to electricity and and and quality of life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean, that's great for everybody, even especially in the village, is also where you're like oh, you know, I want to study, but maybe I don't have kerosene or maybe Whoever it was supposed to bring the kerosene for my lamp did not come to town today, so I got to wait a couple, I got away a couple of days to get my stuff together before I can study for a certain exam, and that's not fair to people. To get the education you need, you need to get education so you could build a proper infrastructure, and Proper infrastructure leads to ever evolving town, every evolving country, ever evolving Society, because the people that are getting education are gonna come and improve that town. Sure, that country they're not gonna be like okay, I like to go up there, I'm out now, like you take yourself and you go to New York City and that's that. So you know, this is an opportunity for the government of Sierra Leone, the people that are building in the new communities. Take advantage of green technologies, renewables, to improve your community as far as electricity goes and make sure that Everybody I mean have people come together. That way you could create enough energy to be able to we sell back to the powers that be, instead of thinking about oh, we owe the Turkish company 40 million, will never be able to pay that, so we won't pay it. Either they forgive our debt or they don't. We don't care. You don't want to be in that situation. You want to have you, don't you? You want to evolve to the point where where they left you. The next time they come, five years, ten years from now, when they come, it's not where they met you and you feel very good about you. Feel very good about the way things are because you've developed so much and compare In partnership with that, plumbing as well.
Speaker 1:We need to the country of Sierra Leone needs, like with the new communities, put rules and regulations in place to be able to have indoor plumbing good indoor plumbing, not just. You know, I have a flush toilet. Just because and it's a really nasty and it's a flush toilet's not supposed to look black at all you use of, you clean them and if you have running water, that kind of helps with the cleaning. They're not supposed to be. You know the way they are. But People are like oh, you know, this is my flush toilet, I have indoor plumbing. Do you really? Because if your toilet isn't clean, you don't have clean water, you don't have electricity, you don't even know what you're sitting on, yeah, and you're gonna get sick and you don't know how come you're sick. It's not the devil, it's cleanliness. Yeah, it's not having electricity to be able to see, to be able to constantly see where you're at and what's going on with you.
Speaker 1:But, uh, shabra Island is gonna start booming and I'm sure people are gonna want to move there, because if you have a place in Sierra Leone With 24 7 electricity if they could make that possible it's gonna be the new booming, a booming part of town and everybody that's developed or that wants to develop is gonna go over there. Whatever, whether it's businesses, hospitals, restaurants it's gonna be the next place to be and Idris Elba, with the help of the government, is gonna hopefully go far. But also, stop holding the diaspora's hand underwater. When we come, then we want to develop. Don't say, well, what do you have now for me, right now, today?
Speaker 2:I think I was going to ask how was your experience? I was the experience with, I mean, I mean not it's very with with with electricity, let's okay.
Speaker 1:So I had two opportunities with the electric city. While I was in Freetown I stayed in my aunt's house. They have solar, they have at, they have at the cables, so During the day, if there's light, you could have at sunlight, and at night, if there isn't light, the solar panels are charged up enough, the batteries are charged up enough, so you free to be able to use solar. But I didn't have enough electricity all the time at the house, because sometimes we could be using the solar all day because electricity is not coming through. So that destroys the point of the solar, the solar so. But when I went over to my father's house, the solar panels are new Light 24-7.
Speaker 1:Oh so so I was just like oh, this is great, this is what it feels like to be able to charge your phone at 100%. I was never able to really charge my phone at a hundred percent all the time when I when I'm at the other house, because maybe you have power, maybe you don't, maybe the solar is working or if it's been overworked, so we got it has to go off for the night. Wow. So that was my experience with electricity, and I mean for me coming from here, america, it's pretty annoying To know that you can't charge your phone like you want to, to know that you can't watch TV If you just don't feel like going out like you want to, because you could be watching TV and all sudden yeah, powers out, so it's a family house.
Speaker 2:If you have the opportunity to invest in like that in the in the energy sector, which part of the energy sector would?
Speaker 1:you invest. I'd like to get a lot. I'd like to get a solar farm and we sell back, so that way I could be a supplier, so that to make sure that people have power. Okay, that's what I'd like to do. They do that in America as well. There's people with solar panels in their houses, or, like Elon Musk and Tesla, they have solar panel roof. Yeah oops, and they could fill your whole roof all filled with solar panels.
Speaker 2:So so I say roll, that policy will have to play like in that context, because I do not think currently you can sell to the grid For me a roof right in.
Speaker 1:Sierra Leone? No, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but so there is a rule there that policy will have to play. But I think in the long run it's always a very small country. I'm sure it is if collectively people are able to do that. If I have the wheel, if I have the wheel right now, I'll push for this policy that every new like building.
Speaker 2:New community should have like, like they should, they should build their roof so that it can accommodate solar. At least, even if you do not install the solar, your roof should be fit to accommodate solar. Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that is just one very do that and make it possible for people to be able to resell back into the grid, and then that way, yeah, you're not like, oh, I'm $40 million in debt and yeah, I can't pay it and I don't want to pay it, and that's, that's debt you can actually Distribute it to people, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you give people subsidy that. If you are, if you install like a one Kilowatt system, you have this subsidy. Yeah, we will probably exempt you from paying Distax, like your income tax, like things that you are not taking money from the pocket of people, which are just reducing how much you take from people.
Speaker 1:I mean that'd be a great idea. Moving forward, yeah, the country should be ever evolving. It's not where they left you Not to aside and meet you. Yeah, waiting and give. When don't you say hi, don't don't know. That's the way we give me, try, they don't don't know. Yeah, but what you do for make sure, say that's he did not. Don't. What you do for, make sure, what did you do to make sure that progress is everlasting To the point where you could pass it on to somebody else and they're like, oh, let me improve on it, because if I don't improve on it, the future of whoever I am, the future of whoever I leave behind, they don't have one. So that's an opportunity. But people, I appreciate you for being here today.
Speaker 1:Informative conversation. I want, I want the people of Sierra Leone for Savise Renewable energy, not the way for go. Really, in my own opinion, are the continent of west Africa, not the continent of Africa. Well, I will say west Africa, because west Africa nine for some of the countries or not gets dying for structure day, saying you know, be able Serve power to everybody, like how we want, forget 24, 7 electricity. So if you not get the opportunity there, look into renewables, all the new communities that we need to be looking to renewable energy sources and go take. We look for and go take we a long way and we go build and we go improve. And it only take one thing For sure improvement. Because we do that one thing, they somebody else will do something else for improve power, hopefully, and then the next man, then the next man by the time you know it, 2025 years later, I come back and a different country. They meet because of that one initiative. They way somebody take that one thought that somebody had that. Uh, I wanted to improve. So Sierra Leone people keep that in mind. But this is just for educational purposes, so that you guys know and I get myself. I feel like I'm a little bit educated about having had this conversation from somebody that knows more than me and Hopefully you see this video, you share it amongst your friends.
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