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Diving Deep into Sports and Pop Culture: Trades, Triumphs, Struggles, and the Celebrity Influence

Amadu Jalloh & Andrew Pender

Are you ready for a deep dive into the exhilarating world of sports and popular culture? Prepare to be entertained and enlightened as we dissect the monumental trade of Damian Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks, hail the Miami Dolphins' victory on the Chargers' home field and investigate the Bills' Super Bowl track record. Ever wondered what celebrity singers bring to the football world? We've got your curiosity covered!

Turning the conversation to the struggles of the New York Jets and the potential of Caleb Williams, we delve into the implications of the Miami Dolphins not pushing for the record and the Denver Broncos' winless streak. We're also throwing the spotlight on Russell Wilson, Nathaniel Hackett, and Sean Payton - are they living up to the hype, or falling short? And what about Justin Fields needing to know everyone else's job to play quarterback? Stick around; we've got some thoughts to share.

But that's not all! We're also hitting baseball out of the park, examining the teams still in playoff contention and the changes aimed at speeding up the game. We're giving our take on the influence of celebrity couples like Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift on sports and ticket prices. And don't miss our candid conversation about the machinery behind the celebrities who are catapulted into the limelight of popular culture. So buckle up and join us on this thrilling ride!

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Speaker 1:

I am. I'm a great. We're trying to put this in the wax, like we've done plenty of other classics, so let's get it going, andrew, it's not much. Lots of things, lots of things.

Speaker 2:

But in the world of sports we have lots of things, especially for football. Baseball ends this Sunday, so the playoffs begin on Tuesday and I'm very excited about that. I started out with the Damian Lube getting traded to the Milwaukee Bucks not the Laney, as I was expecting them to get traded and Pat Riley as much as I've ever made a comment about how they really should have done everything possible to make that trade happen to the Heat Nah, they shouldn't have. Blazers would have done anything. They gotta do what's best for them, and that was best for Dave, because Dave was highly compensated for his years in Portland. Very loyal, awesome player. He could always retire Miami. He'd choose us too. You're right, he always could. Emory is a what's that? One Basis. Should I be a move to Miami?

Speaker 1:

They do not, they should be a move to.

Speaker 1:

Miami, yeah, right, anyway, but some of the topics on top of football, baseball, we got some popular culture topics as well. We got some very popular singers in the mix in the football world. We got some females that are shaking up the football career for certain teams. So we'll get into these topics and plenty of others. Is there more than one? Well, no, I mean not more than one. There's two superstar artists that I want to get into especially, so let's get into them. First and foremost, we'll hit the NFL. We got Miami bulldozing everybody right now on touch.

Speaker 2:

They barely beat the Chargers in LA. That was a like comeback. It sounded like they're bulldozing the Broncos.

Speaker 1:

Yes, To go to a team's home field and beat them coming back. It's kind of hard. Oh, it's very hard. It's hard. You didn't roll over. No, they pulled it off because the Chargers roster is no slosh. They got a Pro Bowl quarterback. They got a Pro Bowl safety. They got an offensive line to die for. They have coaches minus Brandon Staley who's their head coach. They got a plethora of coaches that you know some teams will die to have. I don't know if it's a Chargers curse or something, because they've had plenty of capable teams in the past and they just can't seem to get over that hump. And it's like why? What does it happen? What's happening? They've even changed locations, from San Diego now to LA, and still it's the same old Chargers.

Speaker 2:

Yep, horrible, except for 1994, they're one lone Super Bowl parents. That's about it.

Speaker 1:

Well, super Bowls are hard to get to. If you could get to one, god bless you, because there's been teams that have gone to four and one. None that has happened.

Speaker 2:

Sure, the Minnesota Vikings. Is that who you're talking about the Minnesota Vikings? Because they've been four and lost them.

Speaker 1:

No, the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2:

Truth be told, I think no one has lost more Super Bowls than the New England Patriots. They've lost them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, all we know is the six wins that they've had. Nobody knows how many they've lost. So I'm talking about New England coaching as well as playing. There's a big component in this game and NFL. I feel like Mike McDaniels and the Miami, the Miami players. It's such a great. They mesh so well that they are able to just seep in what the coach is selling them and go out there and produce and it's I'm not going to lie to you, this Sunday is a scary game for Buffalo. It's a home game for Buffalo, but it's a scary game for Buffalo because right now, miami is the leader of the division. Yes, well, I can't say nobody in their wildest dreams. There's a lot of people abundance out there that were saying Miami may come in second or third place. That's it In the division. In the division, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, that was if Tua was not healthy. Look, if Tua was healthy, there should have been no debate. That was good. You see what they did last year when Tua was healthy, before he got injured. So I didn't want you to thought that just because Aaron Raj was coming to New York and he was just going to dominate If Tua was, I said if Tua was healthy, miami is going to win the division.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's why you added on this the bill is look, I was in Buffalo for the the playoff game. They barely beat their third string quarterback.

Speaker 1:

I think I mean all that stemmed from coaches second guessing themselves like trying to do too much. Yeah, because I mean in the playoff game that Miami had against Buffalo, yeah, what's it called? Skyler, I believe that's a quarterback's name he wasn't doing too much and they almost had a touchdown. I mean they had a what's it called a touchdown, called back. Yes, and Sean McDermott was second guess themselves left, right, upside down, like what were you doing? Stick to the plays that were working and they were working.

Speaker 1:

And you're just like trying to work your players brains. Too much Football. To play your best football, you need to be free. You need to be free of thought per se, Just be all in with the reaction time and for you to not for you to have players thinking way too much, it sucks because now they're thinking instead of playing and you I mean you play your fastest when you're reacting In comparison to should I go left? Should I go right? Should I go up? Should I back up a little bit? Miami is definitely juggernaut offensively, so Buffalo's going to have to find a way. And it's DeMar Hamlin's first game back, so Buffalo's going to have to find a way.

Speaker 2:

And once you get an interception return for touchdown. Are you going to put money on it? Nope, but what you heard it first, he's going to do it.

Speaker 1:

All right, amen, if he does. That'd be great and hopefully the whole game goes smooth for him.

Speaker 2:

All I know is that they those lose this game. I'm going to delete myself from my family chat in the text group because the Miami Dawson fans yes, it's the penders in the south and penders in the north, and this is going to be bad, derek.

Speaker 1:

I put up A comment on Facebook and I was going to wait to respond to you on the podcast. So if you get a chance to listen, you get to hear this. Don't get him going. A run and gun offense will make it to the Super Bowl and they will lose.

Speaker 1:

No, kansas City is not a run and gun offense. Patrick Mahomes is orchestrating that. It looks like a run and gun but it's not a run and gun. The receivers get in. The receivers get in the mix. The running backs get in the mix. Kansas City does not have super speed. They have one guy that's super fast. That is not even their best receiver. Mark has valid. That's scantling. So no, I do not consider Kansas City a run and gun offense. They're high powered when everything is working well, but they're not Miami. They're not like motion here. Move this, there have a gun. Basically, it just dawned on me, miami is playing CFL football. What the receivers in the CFL? They're already moving before the ball snapped. Miami has their receivers in motion, moving before the ball snapped. Most YBC reserves no, most teams. You have your X and your Z. They stay stationary. When the ball snapped, they move, but in Miami they already zipping, motioning, having somebody break free. That's if you watch a CFL. I don't know how many games you're watching a CSFL. I watch it every week.

Speaker 2:

You watch a CFL. Yeah, I was at the Hamilton TigerCat game, liberty oh.

Speaker 1:

OK, I told you that. No, you said you went to Canada. I didn't know why you went to Canada. I told you I went to the TigerCat game.

Speaker 2:

Go TigerCats, baby, let's go TigerCats, ok.

Speaker 1:

Anyhow, their game is predicated on motion and CFL's game is predicated on motion. They have the receivers, they have players standing off the line way back and then all of a sudden, you snap the ball there. They're high-tailing it going fast.

Speaker 2:

That's not really what I'm doing. Often she's just like oh no no, no, you already have momentum.

Speaker 1:

Miami already has momentum by having those guys moving. If I'm standing flat-footed and you're already in motion, I've got to take time to catch up to you. That's what I'm saying. So Miami's players are already in motion. They're fast, but they're already in motion, so you've got to take time. Now your defense has to take time to catch up to them, instead of being already in position to like I'm going to bump you off the line or I'm going to shake you a little bit, nudge you a little bit to get you off your route. That's not happening, because they're already in motion, they already know where they're going and by the time, your defense is like oh, they're here, they're already there, the ball's already delivered. Tourist quick delivery takes it off. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

But God, I will see what Derek has to say about that. I'm sure he has less.

Speaker 1:

If you have anything to say about it, derek, get in the comment section on the YouTube page, send your message, or get on the Facebook page, send your message. Whichever, however, you feel it's necessary for you to deliver your message, that would get straight to me. But don't do it in any other form and go buffalo. I'm not a fan, but it's water bullet talk, so it's good. But on to the Jets. What are your thoughts about the Jets regular season? The rest of the season?

Speaker 2:

Well, I would like to say that I have complained through the years about how the Buffalo Bills have been run and how our curse and all that stuff, but we're really not. When you look at the Jets it's like if you go to a date with somebody and go to the movie theater and watch a bunch of horror movies, you get close to them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just saying you look better in their eyes now because they just watch the movie full of monsters and then they look at you and they're like he's not so bad now. That's what the Jets are. The Jets are like a monster, like how could you be? They are, they are curse. As Tony Kornhiser says, they have one highlight in their life. That's Joe Nameth doing this. But the thing and it's true they are, you know, look, and I could care less what happens to the Jets, but I was excited to see what happened with Anne Rice.

Speaker 1:

I really wanted to see that Me too, me too.

Speaker 2:

And to see them go out like that, I wasn't really that happy. I wanted to see them, I wanted to see the big picture, have a really cool competitive debate.

Speaker 1:

Well, there's always next year if he comes back, If he does so he'd be what?

Speaker 2:

39, 40 years old. At that point He'd be 40. Yeah, it's pretty hard. They should take and get Caleb Williams or not. Caleb Williams, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

There's like five, six quarter backs that are like first round worthy. That's common draft, so it doesn't matter who you get. It's now you get the opportunity to get somebody to pitch your scheme. Whatever their scheme is, what is their scheme? Nathaniel Hackett, Green Bay Packers scheme? They should find Nathaniel Hackett first and foremost and get somebody from the Mike Kyle Shanahan coaching Chlee, yeah they should gut that whole coaching stuff.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of Nathaniel Hackett, the Broncos. Sean Payne, you are a dem magician. You are doing all that distraction just in case your team sucks and they go 0-3. They are 0-3. And the last game they got embarrassed. The game before that they got put on notice by the Washington commanders. The Washington commanders came back in a second court, their second half, and whooped the Brown House. How's that happen? Nobody knows. But that wasn't supposed to happen, but it did happen.

Speaker 1:

Champagne, you are a Jedi mind tricker. You made sure that you threw all the blame. Oh, Nathaniel Hackett, you know, was doing too much. He wasn't. You know, looking, looking out for the players was putting the players in harm's way, and just that. And a third. And that's why the team was so terrible. No, the team is just terrible, period. Russell Wilson is not doing much. He's trying, but he's not doing much. Your defense gave up 70 points against Miami. That is embarrassing. That is what you call quitting the professional league. They could. All they needed was three more points, though the dolphins. They needed three more points to set the record. What are your thoughts on that, On the dolphins?

Speaker 2:

The dolphins not going for that.

Speaker 1:

It's a man's game. Stop me when I'm playing Madden. Stop me If you can't stop me. Like that guy said a former judge for C, rapha Goddus name he goes. He goes by. Chosen, now Chosen. Yeah, robbie Anderson, he goes by, chosen. Robbie Anderson said we should have kept going. Yeah, he's a, he's a dolphin.

Speaker 2:

I remember Robbie Anderson.

Speaker 1:

He was played for the Jets for a while he plays for the Jets, he was pretty decent, then went to the Panthers and then Arizona.

Speaker 2:

They should have went for it. They should have went for it. They were right there. Go for it, get the field goal. Call it a day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I mean, mike, mike McDaniels, want to show sportsmanship, not embarrassing too much. What's three more points? What's 10 more?

Speaker 2:

points. I thought exactly Go for it. They could have won for it. They could have easily scored another touchdown, make it 77.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you've already gone for 70s.

Speaker 2:

They should have went for it. My uncle was so ticked off about that. Well, did he put money in the game no he didn't put money in the game, but he wanted that record. He wanted the dolphins get that record.

Speaker 1:

The dolphins already have an undefeated seasonal record. Yeah, that's right, and he wanted.

Speaker 2:

he wanted the all points record. Oh, that boy is greedy. I know I can't have my things winning 70, 70 to 20, and it's not good enough.

Speaker 1:

50 points on the 50 point of 50 point margins Not good enough, not crazy. I need a 53 point margin.

Speaker 2:

That's a net.

Speaker 1:

I felt like the Broncos lose on where they're playing against the burgers. That's another disappointing team. Justin Fields comes out and was like yo, I'm going to play, relax, I don't have to worry about it anymore, I'm just going to go. Be me, bro, you were you and your team sucked. But I digress. Playing quarterback is super, super, super difficult. I know that. Not only do you have to know your job, you have to know everybody else's job. So to that extent, I you know I feel bad for you. But for you to talk almighty and not deliver and your team not even be up to snuff against Kansas City, in the first half, your lucky Kansas City was feeling generous and they only dropped 40 on you. They could have probably easily dropped 70 on you because you guys were just not doing it. It's like you blew every assignment that you could have blown in the first half. That's just crazy. I know you're playing against Patrick Mulhome's future Hall of Famer, but God damn, bro, why? Justin, you have a great receiver, you have a defensive minded head coach and you have a decent running game you included. You know that could have done something to slow down the chiefs, but now you guys couldn't. Why? Well, hopefully you have a better game this week because you know, you're ever growing in the NFL, always onto the next, onto the next, onto, onto, onto, onto the Brownco's, as Bill Belichick would say, onto the Brownco's. Speaking about Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, I listened to an interview that he did, you know, an all encompassing interview.

Speaker 1:

I liked it very much. I felt inspired after I listened to it, because he was talking about his life, you know, just basically going out there and getting it. Whatever it is you want to do, go out there and get it. You want to be the first string quarterback. He went out there and got it. What's that? Drew Blusso went down. No, you don't want, you don't want somebody to lose their job that way to you. But he went out there and got it, which I'm like that's how everyone of us should be in life. Let's go. But onto the NBA. What's happening to NBA?

Speaker 2:

Andrew. Well, Damon Leder got traded to the box as I mentioned, very unenthusiastically, saying it, it's not I mean, I'm. I'm disappointed for the heat, but at the same token I'm it's exciting news for the NBA. It is because he needed to get out of Portland and I'm glad it's going to Milwaukee. I like teams like Milwaukee to be good, because I don't want to see Yanis move.

Speaker 1:

Most importantly, you like the fact that Damian Lillard could stand a chance to win a championship. Yes, I want to see him in the playoffs. No, he's been in the playoffs. It's time for him to win a championship. Compete for a championship Compete, sure, but Yanis won it without him.

Speaker 2:

So, with Dame, if they could work out really well and they matched really well, then it's championship or bustle season, but it's not over, because it'll be interesting to see what true Hollidan is going because he obviously was the big centerpiece to go to Portland. Yeah, portland's not going to keep him because they don't really need him. So Portland can really make out. They really can make out in this deal big time. What Trade him to Phoenix? Phoenix and Miami could be in the Lermanian again to get him, but they could use a nice defender a Jew holiday.

Speaker 1:

Well, the big complaint is that Damian wanted clearly to go to Miami. But, like you were saying earlier, if we've paid you this money, we've been as loyal to you as you've been to us. So we really don't owe you anything. They really didn't owe anything to go where he wanted to go, besides building the team for the future.

Speaker 2:

It's like even when LeBron left Miami and it was so upset about that one who gives it a rep dude, he wants to go leave. I mean, he played there, he took the heat to the four straight finals and won a couple championships, so what leave? Like you know, miami started to become one of those like people that just feel like they just deserve everything Entitlement people.

Speaker 1:

I really love that. You hear that cousin Derek Miami's entitled the dolphins are not entitled. We're talking about the heat, no, the dolphins.

Speaker 2:

The heat had been smelling themselves for a little while, andrew, which is fine. They're a great organization. I love them dearly. But I remember the days when we could barely get Juan Howard to come to Miami. And now, look us, now we're all set because we can't get Damian.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's a long season. Anything could happen. You can get another player that just fits you, just right.

Speaker 2:

I think they should get Drew Holiday. I think it'd be a nice piece there. He definitely fits that whole Miami culture thing. Culture, everybody calls it a culture.

Speaker 1:

He's a pale in the hand, head down working kind of guy. He's awesome. Ok, awesome, good character, everything that's what you need for Spoltz, troy and Riley, because they want people to follow the program, get in line and do what's asked of you and for the greater good of the team.

Speaker 2:

That's just great. No BS organization. That's why they're successful, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1:

So, speaking of what's it called the NBA, I will talk about our guy, dion. Back to football, dion Sanders. So we got Dion losing last week to Oregon and the big news out of the gate was that there's a bunch of coaches that decided they needed to plot against Dion for him to lose and Oregon whooped on Colorado. Colorado lost really bad. It's like taking candy from a baby. And what's that guy's name? Johnson? He was on. Speak for Yourself. Oh, keyshawn Johnson.

Speaker 1:

Keyshawn Johnson was the one that broke the news. He was talking about the team. There was a bunch of teams out there, that bunch of head coaches out there that gave Oregon playbook on Colorado, and supposedly Bonix's uncle or a coach that he knew when he was younger, was also the defensive, is also the defensive coordinator for Colorado. But I don't believe that guy would trade his job for a kid to win, which wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. So Dion's bravado could have robbed people the wrong way. Dion is, I mean, he's loud and brash and we take that for yeah, we take that for cockiness. It's confidence, it's what it is.

Speaker 2:

It's confidence. Why do you think he's considered that so cocky? He's not cocky, he's confident.

Speaker 1:

A man can't be confident in life you can be up to a certain point, but the moment you get too confident, they're like what do you think about yourself? Why do you think you're?

Speaker 2:

so awesome, why Well he's supposed to think he's so awesome?

Speaker 1:

No, he's just supposed to do, coach speak. And just you know what's coach speak?

Speaker 2:

He's look he's a confident man. That's what's attractive about him. That's why you've got a bunch of people with celebrities going to Boulder, colorado, to watch the buffaloes play, when nobody give a rep about Colorado for decades.

Speaker 1:

We have not.

Speaker 2:

And now they're showing up on the sidelines going to these games. These are big celebrity games now. These are fun Because the man has confidence and that's what draws people closer to him. Because he's arrogant or he thinks he's just walking in.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, if he is arrogant, he has every right to be multiple Super Bowl champion, hall of fame inductee. You know he has a he's proven himself.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I mean, he's a guy who talks a big talk and walks that big walk and he's been doing it since FSU and he's always drawn attraction and delivered with all the pressure on him and everybody looking at him. So, yeah, I mean that's a very confident man. So why would he think that, going to Boulder, Colorado, they won one game last year that yeah, I'm going to turn this around real quick and we're going to be good?

Speaker 1:

And he did. He definitely did, which is freaking awesome. But I just feel like moving forward. Don't get your team, don't get your team in a tight space, because people will be coming after your team maliciously because of what you say as a coach. You cannot jeopardize your players like that. Let them come.

Speaker 2:

Let them come. The reason why Oregon won it was not because they were scheming with all these other coaches. I don't know that for a second. I believe that the Oregon won that game because they've been a powerhouse of recruiting for the past 15, 20 years, where nobody even thought Colorado was a nobody. No one good that was coming out of high school wanted to go to Colorado. That's true. Like why am I going to go to Colorado? I'm going to Oregon where one of our big sponsors is Nike.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Phil Knight owner of Nike and he gets new uniforms every Saturday.

Speaker 2:

So they you know let's calm down here the fact that you know they had to scheme to be Colorado Morgan has some great players they do and they've had great players and the fact that they've only been to the National Championship game once, and that was in what? 2001? In Camden. When was Camden in the working? What year was that? 2010,? Maybe Was it 2010? Yeah, you're right. So 2010 draft. So they went to the National Championship in 2010 when they played Auburn, auburn and Auburn.

Speaker 1:

And that was the only time. No, didn't they go a second time? They played against Ohio Ohio State Yep, when they first started this ranking. I'm going to have to double check that. You might be right. I think they went twice with Chip Kelly. Well, not Chip Kelly After Chip Kelly left, because they went with Chip Kelly and then they went with Cal.

Speaker 2:

Fridge, because else Camden and Auburn. Yeah, I know they went to the playoff.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if there was an extra. No, they did. They did again with Mark Helgrich against Ohio, and Ohio smashed them. Ok, I believe so, but anyhow, let's move on to other topics ahead. What's happened with baseball, andrew? What's? Happening with the American's Pass Time. That's a lie.

Speaker 2:

This is big. So the Marlins are trying to make the playoffs and they made it during the COVID year. So whatever, I don't really count that.

Speaker 1:

But baseball is just like cricket, but cricket is bigger than Asia and the rest of the world.

Speaker 2:

And it doesn't take three weeks to finish again. So anyway, now the last game is. The season ends tomorrow and we have a lot of teams that are very kind of clutching and we're sort of figuring things out. Hopefully, tron Blue Jays our friends up north, only about a couple of hours from us they have a chance to clutch today. The Marlins have a chance to clutch today in Pittsburgh. As much as I love my beloved Pirates, we need to lose. They're not making the playoffs, so we got to make the Marlins make the playoffs. So hopefully they can get in and that would be fun. It'd be the first time since real playoffs, since 2003 for the Marlins 20 years ago, the last time the Marlins really made a. You know they're not there. Like I said, not the quarter, but 2003, when they won the championship.

Speaker 1:

That'd be great for them in baseball world, and I'm sure they sped up the game a little bit more now, since they added a pitching clock.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, the games have been around two hours and 40 minutes. They saved over 25, 30 minutes of baseball. I don't think it was boring as hell I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's high in the box. Soft fix near blows, let's go. It's high in detention, which is good it's a great.

Speaker 2:

baseball is the best for tensions. I love it. You get a bottom of the ninth, get a batter up there. You know work that count. It's nerve-wracking. It's so much fun and I can't wait for the playoffs next week.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that'd be good man, it'd be awesome. Keep us updated, keep us all abreast on this development called baseball. Nobody's paying attention, sorry, guys.

Speaker 2:

Maybe somebody's off. That's why all the big nature networks, nobody talks baseball. It's all football they're all football shows, every single one, if that's one. All football shows.

Speaker 1:

It was like ESPN, all football shows. It was a gradual transfer, it was a gradual downslope. It's all about that and basketball.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I understand. It's just you know they're catering to where the ratings are. That's true. You don't get it, so that's why they talk it, because that's what the people watch. But, holy cow, how many times do you cowboy fans need to listen to your cowboy talk? All effin' time on FS1?.

Speaker 1:

All the time Speaking of cowboys and popularity and all that good stuff. We got Taylor Swift jumping into the football world with that boy, travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey used to date black women. Oh, they were so gorgeous. And then he switched all of a sudden and started dating Taylor Swift. He gets a mustache he forgets to go to. It's like, hey, officer, state trooper you, but Taylor Swift has totally done it. Beautiful, totally, given Travis Kelsey the messy effect, which is a Taylor Swift effect. What's the messy effect? The messy effect Ticket prices went up in Miami for Enter Miami. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, travis Kelsey's jersey sales went up 100%. Isn't that something? Right? That's crazy. And people were watching the game a little bit more because they wanted to see if Taylor's there. Did they really? Yeah, taylor Swift has the messy effect.

Speaker 2:

But the Taylor Swift People take on her for having so many boyfriends. But it's like, really, how could you have a normal relationship with anybody with that kind of life?

Speaker 1:

Well, she can't. But I mean, like I said, there's 17 boyfriends that we know about, but there's a bunch more that we probably don't know about, that are not registered.

Speaker 2:

I don't think she can get away with dating anybody that you don't know about. Of course she can. How?

Speaker 1:

If they're in her camp, if it's somebody that she knows closely, that's within her concert venue, that's within her group of people that she deals with on a regular basis. We wouldn't know, because it would be normal. But now that she's dating Travis Kelsey, I have the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, it's world news. It's great. No, taylor Swift is decent looking, but I mean, if I had another choice, I'd pick somebody else. I like a little meat on my women's bones and Taylor Swift is lacking in that area. Oh, she's beautiful. Go ahead, that's great. So, speaking of Taylor Swift, we got Beyonce. I didn't tell you this, andrew, but Taylor Swift and Beyonce are like two of the artists. I feel like America shoves down our throats. You think so? Yes, beyonce to me and Taylor Swift, they're not that talented when it comes to them. No, no, they're not. They're not. The machine pushes them. You have certain people that they push in the forefront, that they make a big deal, that they put them so much in your face. You come to believe that it is what they're saying about them is true? Taylor Swift? No, she isn't. She makes pop songs, but they're good songs. No, after wow, they disappear.

Speaker 1:

Name another Taylor Swift song today Love story. Name five Taylor Swift songs Delicate, you're stuck it too. No, googling. I said name them, no, no, no, I have it on my iTunes. Hey, look man, you're putting him on the spot right now. I have her on my iTunes. No, that's why I said name them. No, I don't have all of her stuff. No, if she made everlasting songs like that, then you would be able to name them, dude. I Name five Michael Jackson songs.

Speaker 2:

Andrew, I don't want to do it. You're the world thriller lady of my life. See, there's some butterflies another really good song I like. You get my point. You get my point. Oh, hold on, see, this is what I have on my iTunes. I have love story. You Belong With Me. Then I have delicate no, delicate, this love queen, are you ready for it?

Speaker 1:

I got a little for you. No, no, no, no, Andrew. Bottom line is you did not sit here. You could only name two songs. Taylor Swift is not that impactful as far as singing goes. They push her, put her down her arthroats. This is what it is. How did they push you down her throat? How did they push her down her arthroats?

Speaker 2:

It's OK. Look for example. It's like let's go back to FS1. They pushed the cowboys down here to go, but they don't push them down my throat because I changed the channel, so they don't really push anything down my throat.

Speaker 1:

Andrew, you could change the channel 10,000 times. You've heard about the cowboys that day and then the next day again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for maybe like all of five seconds, that's OK.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't matter. You've heard about them that day you hear about them again. Taylor Swift dates Travis Kelsey. It's big news, ok, but it's only big news if you're watching the news. No, it's not only big news if you're watching the news. If you open up your phone, you get a notification. You may get a notification from Yahoo News or Apple News. Taylor Swift seen at the Kansas City game.

Speaker 2:

Taylor Swift- was in a relationship with Sorensville. But they're in the news because they're popular. But how are you? But this is what I'm having a hard time listening. How is Taylor Swift and Beyonce not that?

Speaker 1:

talented? No, they are talented, but for the amount of notoriety that they get it's not necessary. The average singers are best.

Speaker 2:

They're average singers. You think Beyonce is an average singer?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I think Kelly Rowland is a better singer in Destiny's Child. Oh, she's very good. I mean I like I think Kelly Rowland is the best singer in Destiny's Child. Ok, but Beyonce probably might be second as far as singing goes, but she has a package.

Speaker 2:

Well, she's beautiful to start with, that's so. I mean, kelly Rowland is pretty, she's very pretty too.

Speaker 1:

You wouldn't pick Kelly Rowland over Beyonce. You would pick Taylor Swift over Beyonce. I would. There you go. I like this. I think she's beautiful. She's very average to look at. Wow, really, you think so. Yes, if Taylor Swift was in popular, I wasn't a famous singer. She's just an average girl, our average skater.

Speaker 2:

She was working the fries in McDonald's. You wouldn't know I wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't even look that way. I would like gosh. She's beautiful. Who's that? Who's that goofy? Who's that? Who's that?

Speaker 2:

The fact that either one of them first off, taylor Swift and play guitar. Now look how we're talking more about this debate than anything else. At this point it's like fuck the dolphins, fuck everything else. Let's debate that. This is towards the end. Here. We just try to Taylor Swift the way to her and Beyonce the fact that they can perform in the manner that they do, with the choreography that they do, and Taylor Swift even plays guitar on stage. They are ridiculously highly talented people. The fact that they even go on stage and not crap themselves in front of 100,000 people and they can perform flawlessly. They are ever talented.

Speaker 1:

They're professionals. That's what you're supposed to do as a professional.

Speaker 2:

OK, but it's just like in the NBA they're all professionals. Some are way better basketball players than other players, but they're all professionals. No, you're a professional, they are the top of the list of professionals You're supposed to do your job as a professional.

Speaker 1:

That's what you come in.

Speaker 2:

You get the job done OK so OK, you come see you If you suck.

Speaker 1:

they're no longer coming to see you, OK, so then let's have, I'm going to have a brain fart.

Speaker 2:

What's the dude saying from the Jets? Now the quarterback, wilson, zach Wilson, zach Wilson, thank you, he's a professional Do better.

Speaker 1:

No, andrew, go for it. Touch on him again. No, no, no, no, no, andrew, he's not that talented, that's why. But he's a player. Playing quarterback is not just about talent, about habits as well. What you do If you watch a giant, hold on, how's it not? No, no, if you watch a Johnny Manziel special, right, you probably didn't, but if you did on Netflix, johnny Manziel did not study. Johnny Manziel did not look at tape. Johnny Manziel did not want to go to practice, he just wanted to live the life, and then he was a Cleveland Browns quarterback. He didn't do anything to make it so that his life is easier, right, right, but as a professional, you study, you ask questions, you put in the time, which is exactly what Beyonce and Taylor Swift do.

Speaker 2:

That's why they're at the top of their game. And then you have other singers that just would rather just do drugs the entire time or be alcohol and they kind of suck up at their performances, but they're still considered professionals Bottom line, bottom line. They are ridiculously talented.

Speaker 1:

No, taylor Swift is talented, beyonce is talented, but their fame, they're pushing it. They're pushing them at us. They want us to embrace them. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't choose Beyonce over Kelly Rowland. As far as singing goes, ok, I think you know?

Speaker 2:

No, that's where.

Speaker 1:

I stand.

Speaker 2:

That's it and that's OK. Ok, but she's very talented and the reason why she's so popular is because everyone she's very good looking. No, it's because people really they like her music, they like their charisma. She's a great performer. She has ability to connect with her audience. That's why she's so popular. All right, same with Taylor Swift. People just really dig it. They find they relate a lot to her lyrics, even though she dates a lot of guys. But that's OK.

Speaker 1:

I can't name five Beyonce songs. You can't name five Taylor Swift songs. Life goes on, but we could both name five Michael Jackson songs. Simple enough, all right, guys. For Fan Faces I'm Amon, we do great.

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